{"id":1042,"date":"2011-05-03T10:16:20","date_gmt":"2011-05-03T17:16:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.ups.edu\/studentlife\/?p=1042"},"modified":"2011-05-03T10:16:20","modified_gmt":"2011-05-03T17:16:20","slug":"the-road-to-graduate-school-part-v","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.pugetsound.edu\/studentlife\/2011\/05\/03\/the-road-to-graduate-school-part-v\/","title":{"rendered":"The Road to Graduate School, Part V"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Be warned; this is going to be a long one.\u00a0<strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600\">My actual interviews<\/span><\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>After writing that last blog, I realized it would be a lot more helpful for me to just tell you about my interview\/visit experiences directly. So I visited\u00a04 places (remember I applied to 8).\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #6a8de6\">1. Berkeley<\/span><\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>One word: Terrified. I turned in my applications in early to mid-December and Berkeley&#8217;s first visit weekend was January 27-30th. o_O Not a lot of time to figure life out&#8230; Also for Puget Sound, this means I left during the second week of school (first week of academic labs) which was especially hard because I&#8217;m in a lab myself\u00a0as well as am\u00a0TA for two others. So yeah, I was terrified but that&#8217;s not really the point of this blog. For the record, Berkeley did not accept me in the end and here&#8217;s what I think went wrong. I didn&#8217;t know what I was doing!!!<\/p>\n<p>For science, a HUGE part of the program is research. You&#8217;re taking classes part-time for 2 years, doing research that whole time and then doing research full time for 3+ more years. So it&#8217;s no wonder programs place a lot of weight on your research experience and ability to discuss it. I didn&#8217;t discuss it well. I forgot who I was talking to. I&#8217;m used to discussing my research with my research advisor or my friends (who even if they aren&#8217;t science majors, have heard me so much that they&#8217;ve at least got some background). So I forgot background. -face palm- Here&#8217;s my &#8220;Berkeley-learned&#8221; advice: It&#8217;s okay to point-blank ask &#8220;What do you know about *insert your research topic here*?&#8221;. So I should have opened with &#8220;What do you know about Bdellovibrio bacteriovorus?&#8221; when they said &#8220;Tell me about your research&#8221;. That way I wouldn&#8217;t have gotten so many of them so confused.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1053\" style=\"width: 235px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.pugetsound.edu\/studentlife\/files\/2011\/04\/DSCN10402.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1053\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1053 \" src=\"http:\/\/blogs.pugetsound.edu\/studentlife\/files\/2011\/04\/DSCN10402-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.pugetsound.edu\/studentlife\/files\/2011\/04\/DSCN10402-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/blogs.pugetsound.edu\/studentlife\/files\/2011\/04\/DSCN10402-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.pugetsound.edu\/studentlife\/files\/2011\/04\/DSCN10402-624x832.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1053\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Wine tour group<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Another problem I think occurred was that I applied to the wrong program. I didn&#8217;t figure this out until discussing it with another applicant at another interview (a UPS graduate actually, Rachel Hood, who is going to Berkeley next year!!). I applied to Plant\/Micro and she applied to MCB (molecular and cellular biology). My problems with the program (socially) didn&#8217;t seem to be present in the group she interviewed with. So don&#8217;t get locked into &#8220;I&#8217;m going into micro. I can only apply to programs with micro in the name.&#8221; That&#8217;s dumb and I think I paid a price for it&#8230; So no Berkeley for me&#8230; But muchos congratulations to Rachel!\u00a0And\u00a0I did get to go on an all-expenses paid wine tour while I was there. Not surprisingly, there were more current students than interviewees at this event (the university was paying after all&#8230;)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #99cc00\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #99cc00\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #99cc00\">2. UC Davis<\/span><\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m going to be honest. I thought of Davis as a backup school. There is some amazing science going on there but location and reputation weren&#8217;t as high on my list as other schools.\u00a0I wish I had not accepted an interview there not because it&#8217;s a bad program, but because I didn&#8217;t want to go there. When I applied, I did consider Davis as a serious choice. But after the Berkeley interview and knowing I also had an interview at my number one school choice, I realized that if Davis was the only place I got in, I wanted to take a year\/two off and reapply. I unfortunately realized this too late.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0By a stroke of bad computer skills, I booked my flights to Davis wrong and paid about $200 to change them so I could get back to Tacoma in time for an event I already had tickets to. Also, Davis only paid $200 of my original $250 flight. So yes, part of my regret is that I lost close to $300 visiting a place I didn&#8217;t want to go. So to reiterate from the application blog, <strong>ONLY apply to and visit places YOU want to go!!!<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>On another note, I didn&#8217;t go to the &#8220;regular&#8221; interview weekend. So here&#8217;s an idea of the schedule you have when you don&#8217;t go on their big, all planned weekends.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Thursday: Fly in. Dinner with 3 current graduate students.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Friday: Morning interviews with professors (3 -4 total), lunch with graduate students, afternoon interviews (2 total). Fly home that night.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>So you miss out on a lot of the fun social parts of a visit. Also you miss out on meeting the people you&#8217;d actually be going to classes with the following year.\u00a0<strong>Try to go to the main weekend!!<\/strong> It&#8217;s so much better&#8230;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #993366\">3. U. Illinois at Urbana<\/span><\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a main weekend schedule:\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Friday: Fly in. Cocktail hour with other interviewees, informative speech about the area, dinner with interviewees\/professors\/current grad students, attend a poster session of current research being done in the program.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Saturday: Breakfast with interviewees, information session on program, interviews (4), lunch with current students, walking tour of campus, social event (we got to choose from 1 for 4 options), dinner with faculty, event at a bar with current students and interviewees.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Sunday: Fly home (preferably not hung over&#8230;)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Sounds like a lot more fun than just dinner and interviews, eh? Well it was. I went to Illinois knowing I loved the research going on there and that I wouldn&#8217;t mind the location. I left seriously torn between it and my previously certain number one choice. That&#8217;s right; an interview changed my opinion of a program\/place. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s so important that you go on these things and really try to see if you&#8217;d be happy there. Something interesting is that I didn&#8217;t feel too strongly about the current graduate students I met there. I loved the other interviewees though! We got along famously so even though I did not decide to go to Urbana, I think I could have been very happy there.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>On another note, I had the flu that weekend&#8230; so sorry to anyone I got sick from the weekend\/planes &lt;_&lt;\u00a0\u00a0 &gt;_&gt; My bad! It was an interesting experience actually. I started to get really sick on Friday but was NOT going to let a little thing like the flu ruin an interview weekend. So I popped cough drops like candy, took Sudafed non-stop, and chugged Delsum. I powered through it&#8230; only to get back to Tacoma and miss 4 days of class while holed up in my room\u00a0miserable.\u00a0Random advice: It might be a good idea to get a flu shot the year you do interviews&#8230; Better safe than sorry!\u00a0\u00a0<strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000\">4. U. Wisconsin-Madison<\/span><\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;ve been paying attention, you&#8217;ll notice this. I had 4 interviews. 1 rejected me, 1 I\u00a0knew before the interview I didn&#8217;t want, 1 I admitted to turning down&#8230;. By process of elimination&#8230;. that&#8217;s right. You guessed it! I&#8217;m going to Madison!\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1043\" style=\"width: 188px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.pugetsound.edu\/studentlife\/files\/2011\/04\/DSCN1224.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1043\" class=\"size-large wp-image-1043\" src=\"http:\/\/blogs.pugetsound.edu\/studentlife\/files\/2011\/04\/DSCN1224-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"178\" height=\"235\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1043\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">My way of telling the Facebook world of my decision<\/p><\/div>\n<p>In the end for me, it came down to a decision between Urbana and\u00a0Madison. Now for the 5+ year question: Why did I pick Madison?\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>1. The program requires a &#8220;professional development&#8221; course, one of which gives me the opportunity to get a teaching certificate and do a teaching internship (I want to become a professor).\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>2. The people are so nice, it&#8217;s almost scary. No, no. I&#8217;m serious. I got more emails and phone numbers than I thought possible. Everyone was willing to answer questions and many offered to look at potential houses for me before I move there (this was before I had even accepted!!).\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>3. I would be happy rotating (like a trial work period to see if you want them for your thesis lab) with almost everyone I met, and I didn&#8217;t even meet half of the department!\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>4. They are an umbrella program which is what I was looking for.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>5. It&#8217;s friggin&#8217; BEAUTIFUL!\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>6.\u00a0And what really put them above Urbana was not something either school could have helped. It just felt right. I made the decision, slept on it, freaked out a little (it is 5+ years of my life after all), then slept again and just knew. It&#8217;s about that fit. I fit them and they fit me. And I am SUPER EXCITED for this fall!!!!!!\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<div class=\"mceTemp\">\n<dl>\n<dt><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.pugetsound.edu\/studentlife\/files\/2011\/04\/DSCN12101.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1061 \" src=\"http:\/\/blogs.pugetsound.edu\/studentlife\/files\/2011\/04\/DSCN12101-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.pugetsound.edu\/studentlife\/files\/2011\/04\/DSCN12101-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogs.pugetsound.edu\/studentlife\/files\/2011\/04\/DSCN12101-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.pugetsound.edu\/studentlife\/files\/2011\/04\/DSCN12101-624x467.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<dd>Madison Micro building<\/dd>\n<\/dl>\n<p>And so, that is the end of my choice.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Oh, and this is something I should have mentioned earlier. My professors were awesome about my interviews. I missed several Thursdays and Fridays and a Monday\/Tuesday as well. And you know how my professors reacted? Excited!! Some I have known for years and am close to, so I wasn&#8217;t surprised at their inquires into the process. They&#8217;ve been asking about my future plans for awhile now.\u00a0Others, however (and one in particular), I had just met this semester. In fact, it was a class outside my major with a professor I had never seen before this year. You want to know what he said when I told him I&#8217;d be missing half a week of class? I believe the words went something like, &#8220;Congratulations! I wish you the best of luck and if you need any help catching up, let me know and we&#8217;ll make time next week.&#8221; So yeah, awesome.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Be warned; this is going to be a long one.\u00a0\u00a0 My actual interviews\u00a0\u00a0 After writing that last blog, I realized it would be a lot more helpful for me to just tell you about my interview\/visit experiences directly. 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